any christians have the idea, that when an angel comes to earth, as f.ex when the angels descended in the days of Jared and mated with human women, they "assumed human form" to be able to interact with mankind and earth and matter. If you look up what the Bible, and not tradition, says about what happened, you will discover that the angels did not assume anything. What they did, was that they LEFT something, namely their heavenly estate. Nothing else is said about this, so we have to go with that. This reveals, that angels are not some sort of floating ghosts, that can "materialize". Instead, they are material beings that can go into a spiritual state, or form. When they come to earth, thus, they LEAVE their spiritual state, and go back to what they really are, and that is, HUMANS. They are humans, just like us, that have the ability to change themselves into spiritual form. Not the other way around, thus. They are not spiritual beings1 that can change into material form. Their first estate was not heaven, and the spiritual.* That was what they had become, by an act of God, at some point in their history. (Before the beginning of our earth.)
* "First estate" is a mistranslation in the KJ, the greek says archen, which means principality, a commencement, magistrate, power. It's not about their origin, but about what they had become, had been uplifted to, ordained to. That the KJ inserted "first" is a clear sign they were influenced by the age old gnostic, in disguise of catholicism, manichaean thought.
Let's look at this from a human perspective. For now, these thoughts may sound strange, but you'll understand more of it as this continues.
Let's think about a shaman, and what a shaman is. He or she is a person, that by the aid of evil spirits have the ability to go from human form, to spiritual form, so to speak. Of course, they leave their bodies sleeping or unconscious while their spirits take some form, often an animal form, and they travel to far places and do their business, what ever it is. This is more what an angel is, than an angel being some kind of formless spirit that materialize at will. The ability that shamans have learned, is related to what the angels do, and can do.2 Angels have bodies like ours, but they can, either in their bodies or without them, go into a spiritual state, and travel to other places, and likewise take different forms in their spirit.
If you adapt this thinking, very much in the Bible, and in the Book of Enoch, will fall into place and be understandable. It will make sense, f.ex how angels could mate with humans. And much much more.
One step further. Imagine some sort of alien race, like in
Startrek, that is highly spiritual, and at the same time highly
noble. Beings of an ancient origin, eons and eons back in the
history of the universe, that have gone from a biological state,
to an eternal state of living. Either by death (and resurrection),
or by some ascension, given to them by God. These "god beings",
or angels, or star people, have a highly developed spiritual ability,
liken it to a shaman's or any highly spiritual human. They are
physical, can act and interact in the physical, but they can also
go into, over into their spiritual form, and sort of lift themselves
up on a higher level.3 These are the caretakers of
the universe, of the heavens. Some of them are faithful to their
mission, some are not. We call them angels, messengers of God,
or the gods. This is what they are.
'll give another scriptural evidence of the truth of this. This has been looking in the face of us all through christian history, and few if any have seen it. Both the original statement in the OT and the quote of this in Hebrews, says that God makes his messengers into spirits, and his servants into flames.
"Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:" (Ps. 104:4)
"And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire." (Hebr. 1:7)
Read it again, and think. What does it say? He makes his messengers
spirits. So they weren't spirits before that. They were messengers
and servants of God, and he blessed them and chose them and made
them spirits and burning flames. That is what an angel being is.
The word angel is not the name of a species, it's a name of an
office, a ministry. It's like postman, ambassador, or something.
It is something someone can become, not what they are from the
beginning. Paul is talking about this also, when in 1 Cor 15 he
says that the natural is the first, and the spiritual what comes
after that. The natural order goes from earthly, material, to
heavenly, spiritual. With what I've shown above, it is obvious
that this goes also for angels - or should I say, the older, pre-earth,
humanity, those who were before us.
You might think, oh, this is the old preadamite thoughts, again. Well no, it's not. I don't believe in the preadamite theory, ie that there was life on earth before Adam and Eve. I don't think there is a gap of time between the first and second verse of Genesis one. I think they have placed that gap in the wrong place. Place it in the first verse instead, and all of this will make much more sense. Like this: "In the beginning God created the heavens - .....gap..... - and the earth." What I mean is, that the universe is old, and have contained life, of which the angels are what is left, and the earth is a new creation, in fact the beginning of the new creation, and we, humanity, are the new Sons of God, that are to replace those of the old ones who left their heavenly estate and high duties.
Astronomers think our sun is a third or fourth generation star, that is, it is formed out of dust from earlier stars that grew old and exploded. They think that the universe is about 15 billions years old, but that our solar system is formed "only" 5 billion years ago, as said, out of stuff from earlier stars. Whether or not that is true, it may be at least in some way, in line with what the Bible reveals, thus. First, God created the heavens (and those heavens obviously included stars and planets), and THEN, he created the earth. In a later stage of the history of the universe, that is. The biblical writers also tell us that this universe, or at least the nearest surroundings, will cease to exist at some time in the future. There will be a new creation, a new heaven and a new earth. Suns don't shine for ever. If you look at Isa 14 and Ez 28 carefully, it shows that the cherub Lucifer was on a physical planet before THIS planet was formed. There were kings and populations, trade and palaces, metals and precious stones. This talks about an earlier stage in the universe, before the creation of mankind and life on earth. There was a fall, and a destruction, and, by looking at those scriptures that talk about God choosing (and appointing) us before the creation of this world, it becomes clear that we were created for the purpose to replace those who fell from heaven, from their divine estate.
So, we are going to be angels. If that sounds strange to you,
it is only because you still think of angel as a species. It's
not, it's a mission. In fact, in Enoch, it right out says that
we are going to become angels (Enoch 51:4, in Schodde's tr.),
so the thought was not unknown or strange to anyone in the epoch
of the apostles. It is quite possible that it was that passage
that Jesus was thinking of, when he said that we are going to
be like the angels, in the resurrection. Although of course he
knew it anyway, he still had to go by the available human (scriptural)
knowledge, in his human role. So when he said that, the listeners
probably recognized that from Enoch and nodded their heads and
It is believed that a star in the Crab Nebula exploded about 7000 years ago, forming the nebula. The light of the explosion reached the earth in the 11th century, and was seen by humans.
ow, to summarize. If we are going to become angels by a resurrection and a glorifying, and Paul says that the physical is the first, and Hebrews says that God makes his messengers spirits, it should be clear that those who now are in heaven and are called angels, went through a similar ascension (and glorification), in their early history. They are what we are going to become. They were what we now are. We and they follow the same divine natural order. That is how God is working.
The Bible says God in the beginning created the heavens and the earth. No mentioning of some spiritual, formless world where ghosts floated around and telecommunicated. Those thoughts are borrowed directly from gnosticism and eastern religions. They are not part of the scriptural witness. The physical world wasn't some lower class world, that God created after he made a perfect formeless nirvana. The physical world was good, and good means perfect. He made the physical with the ability to become spiritual. The physical is not an accident, as some think. Those thoughts have influenced christian thinking and belief, since the time of the gnostics and manichaeans. It was never cleansed out, but is is time to do it now, and return to the original, true faith of the apostles, and the revelation of the heavenlies, that they had.
They couldn't express it in scientific terms, they couldn't
talk about planets and solar systems, but if we check what they
said, it will fit with what we know about such things, and also
show that those medieval "nirvana-like" traditions only
could grow, because there was a lack of knowledge, and a conscious
denial of the origins, that crept into christianity and never
even was detected, until now. And this has to do with the Book
of Enoch being denied and forgotten, because; take that book and
its content seriously, and the original revelation will start
to come to you, again.